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	<title>Comments on: Hey! Over Here … in the Real World!</title>
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	<description>Education Iteration and Other Nonsense</description>
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		<title>By: antero</title>
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		<dc:creator>antero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kisu,
I’ll email you directly, but thought my response may be of benefit to other readers as well.

There are two issues in regards to the technology gap:
1.	We are certainly prone to overwhelming problems of “misfit computers,” missing mice, keyboards with absentee keys, computers with usb ports that are not functioning rogue computers, etc. Our tech staff is stretched thin and while most classrooms have two or three computers in them, it’s a rarity to see all of them up and running. Similarly, the internet at our school (and I think district wide) runs slower than the days of dial-up. 
2.	At the same time, our school has both a school and district firewall that blocks social networking, flickr, youtube, gmail, yahoo, hotmail, etc. 
I have been working on having my students (and my colleagues) learn to use wikis as, yes, they are unblocked at school. However, I think it’s important to tap into the expertise students are already bringing on to campus. Students (at least the ones with internet access at home) are experts at MySpace and text messaging. I’d like for students to recognize these skills as “valid” within a school setting. Instead, our school continue to push a strongly anti-technology policy on campus: phones, PSPs, iPods are contraband and are not to be seen during school hours. I’m in a small minority in voicing a different approach to this “distraction in the classroom.” Things like twitter and social networking sites help illustrate the value of youth culture in school settings.

Thanks for the comment, it is very much appreciated!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kisu,<br />
I’ll email you directly, but thought my response may be of benefit to other readers as well.</p>
<p>There are two issues in regards to the technology gap:<br />
1.	We are certainly prone to overwhelming problems of “misfit computers,” missing mice, keyboards with absentee keys, computers with usb ports that are not functioning rogue computers, etc. Our tech staff is stretched thin and while most classrooms have two or three computers in them, it’s a rarity to see all of them up and running. Similarly, the internet at our school (and I think district wide) runs slower than the days of dial-up.<br />
2.	At the same time, our school has both a school and district firewall that blocks social networking, flickr, youtube, gmail, yahoo, hotmail, etc.<br />
I have been working on having my students (and my colleagues) learn to use wikis as, yes, they are unblocked at school. However, I think it’s important to tap into the expertise students are already bringing on to campus. Students (at least the ones with internet access at home) are experts at MySpace and text messaging. I’d like for students to recognize these skills as “valid” within a school setting. Instead, our school continue to push a strongly anti-technology policy on campus: phones, PSPs, iPods are contraband and are not to be seen during school hours. I’m in a small minority in voicing a different approach to this “distraction in the classroom.” Things like twitter and social networking sites help illustrate the value of youth culture in school settings.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment, it is very much appreciated!</p>
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		<title>By: Kisu Kuroneko</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericancrawl.com/?p=114&#038;cpage=1#comment-10986</link>
		<dc:creator>Kisu Kuroneko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 07:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Antero,

I&#039;ve quite enjoyed strolling through your blog. You&#039;re doing a lot of interesting things that I couldn&#039;t get out of my Gr 7/8 students and it&#039;s adding fuel to my I-think-I-should-switch-to-High-School fire. 

A few different websites have used a great quote from this post: &quot;Sooner or later someone is going to expect my students to be able to quickly and effortlessly post to a blog, add to a wiki, or collaborate via some sort of social networking protocol. And once again, my school will have failed to prepare them for such a task.&quot;

i.e., Playing it too safe online will make you sorry (http://www.edutopia.org/web-2.0-tools-filtering-firewalls) and
Teaching around the firewall (http://nylady.edublogs.org/2008/11/18/teaching-around-the-firewall/)

After reading this post, I&#039;m confused. Is the issue the technology gap between the haves and the have-nots (i.e. misfit computers moving slower than a creep), or is the issue the district&#039;s firewall?

If the social networking sites (i.e. facebook / twitter) are blocked, could you not run your own self-hosted wiki or blog? Or is the goal to use facebook / twitter as the medium itself?

Thanks for your two cents. Cheers, Kisu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Antero,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve quite enjoyed strolling through your blog. You&#8217;re doing a lot of interesting things that I couldn&#8217;t get out of my Gr 7/8 students and it&#8217;s adding fuel to my I-think-I-should-switch-to-High-School fire. </p>
<p>A few different websites have used a great quote from this post: &#8220;Sooner or later someone is going to expect my students to be able to quickly and effortlessly post to a blog, add to a wiki, or collaborate via some sort of social networking protocol. And once again, my school will have failed to prepare them for such a task.&#8221;</p>
<p>i.e., Playing it too safe online will make you sorry (<a href="http://www.edutopia.org/web-2.0-tools-filtering-firewalls" rel="nofollow">http://www.edutopia.org/web-2.0-tools-filtering-firewalls</a>) and<br />
Teaching around the firewall (<a href="http://nylady.edublogs.org/2008/11/18/teaching-around-the-firewall/" rel="nofollow">http://nylady.edublogs.org/2008/11/18/teaching-around-the-firewall/</a>)</p>
<p>After reading this post, I&#8217;m confused. Is the issue the technology gap between the haves and the have-nots (i.e. misfit computers moving slower than a creep), or is the issue the district&#8217;s firewall?</p>
<p>If the social networking sites (i.e. facebook / twitter) are blocked, could you not run your own self-hosted wiki or blog? Or is the goal to use facebook / twitter as the medium itself?</p>
<p>Thanks for your two cents. Cheers, Kisu.</p>
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		<title>By: CCK08: useless computer rooms &#171; Insegnare Apprendere Mutare</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericancrawl.com/?p=114&#038;cpage=1#comment-6993</link>
		<dc:creator>CCK08: useless computer rooms &#171; Insegnare Apprendere Mutare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 19:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] students that live just in a room because they come from other towns or from abroad. From another post pointed by Suzie Boss: Sooner or later someone is going to expect my students to be able to quickly [...]</description>
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